tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811987615829975890.post8259920907462784448..comments2024-03-28T14:07:21.692-07:00Comments on Diary of a Fat Slob: Not among the P'sUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811987615829975890.post-80792860222283615822021-11-24T13:23:14.646-08:002021-11-24T13:23:14.646-08:00I'm pretty sure I know what they were doing in...I'm pretty sure I know what they were doing in that album; it seemed like they were really working on the music, lots of complex arrangements. I respect it, but it wasn't as much fun (for me).Doug Hollandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16075745451950217113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811987615829975890.post-44252793416790513362021-11-24T02:19:08.046-08:002021-11-24T02:19:08.046-08:00Glad you got to hear it. I think the more risk son...Glad you got to hear it. I think the more risk songwriters and musicians take, the more varied the reaction people have to the music. I appreciate your hanging in there for the whole trip. Maybe we'll try Leonard Cohen or John Prine next time, whenever that is. <br /><br />You are a gentlemanly host.<br /><br />Johnjohnthebaskethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11066837787916271883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811987615829975890.post-7459045501612236342021-11-24T01:16:07.417-08:002021-11-24T01:16:07.417-08:00Finally finished my Fugs retrostpective with "...Finally finished my Fugs retrostpective with "It Crawled Into My Hand, Honest" <br /><br />Sorry to say it didn't hit me with the same cosmic smack that it hit you. I'll avoid going into detail because dafuque do I know about music anyway. Just, not for me.<br /><br />Thanks for nudging me toward the Fugs, though, still like a lot of it.Doug Hollandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16075745451950217113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811987615829975890.post-87510551887601960702021-11-20T18:42:40.505-08:002021-11-20T18:42:40.505-08:00I hate conversations with almost anyone, because t...I hate conversations with almost anyone, because they’ll reliably say something stupid as shit but think it’s a polished pearl of wisdom. That’s why I’ve spent years in this recliner, being literally a hermit. This conversation with you has been a kick in the head, though. Dang nice having someone to talk with without regretting the talking.<br /><br />Meet me at the off-ramp, any time.<br /><br Doug Hollandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16075745451950217113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811987615829975890.post-8004832999190509412021-11-20T13:43:49.269-08:002021-11-20T13:43:49.269-08:00Doug, the most important elements of both knowledg...Doug, the most important elements of both knowledge and wisdom are curiosity and invention. My experience is that the gold is to be found at the off-ramps. I start talking about a wah-wah pedal, somebody else (maybe you) immediately thinks of his mom controlling the speed, direction, and other operational elements of a sewing machine with her foot pedal; somebody asks somebody else about johnthebaskethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11066837787916271883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811987615829975890.post-67270420598295551232021-11-20T11:10:27.943-08:002021-11-20T11:10:27.943-08:00Sorry, man — you wanted to talk about artistic roc...Sorry, man — you wanted to talk about artistic rock like the Fugs, and I've derailed you to talking about the most mainstream band ever. They're the only band I accidentally know much about. <br /><br />I'm up to the fifth Fugs album, btw. Which I am liking quite a lot, but it's sure not Top 40 material. Which is what they intended.<br /><br />CIA Man remains my favorite so far, Doug Hollandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16075745451950217113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811987615829975890.post-33470748955764946512021-11-20T08:14:44.785-08:002021-11-20T08:14:44.785-08:00I've just reread this and my only question is,...I've just reread this and my only question is, Who wrote this shit? But here it is . . .<br /><br />It's subtle. Paul could fill in on lead guitar and most of the time you wouldn't notice, but the band had picked up George Harrison, the youngest member and a "natural talent" on lead (which means George practiced his ass off for years and the instrument played into who Georgejohnthebaskethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11066837787916271883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811987615829975890.post-7990828915113449252021-11-20T02:26:04.461-08:002021-11-20T02:26:04.461-08:00He was like a utility infielder, someone you could...He was like a utility infielder, someone you could plug into any position and he'd be fine. Was he as good as Ringo? Like the joke says, the best drummer in the band?Doug Hollandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16075745451950217113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811987615829975890.post-76541920810527817732021-11-19T16:07:17.684-08:002021-11-19T16:07:17.684-08:00Yeah, that's McCartney on drums on "Back ...Yeah, that's McCartney on drums on "Back In the USSR" and "The Ballad of John and Yoko". Several other performances are rumored, but, because in their last three years the band members were rarely in the same studio at the same time, it's difficult to confirm who was overdubbing (actually, underdubbing) drums. Ringo walked out a few times and also made a movie or two johnthebaskethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11066837787916271883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811987615829975890.post-23955360402867582472021-11-19T15:10:20.173-08:002021-11-19T15:10:20.173-08:00Damned funny joke, though. If it was true, I think...Damned funny joke, though. If it was true, I think the drummer would be Paul; I've read that he plays numerous instruments well.<br /><br />On the internet, anyone can say any damned fool thing (see my website). So I do, by habit, try to doublecheck things.Doug Hollandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16075745451950217113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811987615829975890.post-82572259907353121472021-11-19T15:05:34.215-08:002021-11-19T15:05:34.215-08:00It would take me a couple of hours to write someth...It would take me a couple of hours to write something not as good as your replies here. Sincerely, sir, when you get going, it's all worth knowing and it makes my daze better. Doug Hollandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16075745451950217113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811987615829975890.post-22256012529487139192021-11-19T14:33:57.792-08:002021-11-19T14:33:57.792-08:00For a guy who claims not to know much about music ...For a guy who claims not to know much about music and musicians, you nailed the faux Lennon quote about Ringo that has fooled many in three generations of Beatle fans, including me for a short time before the Web and Snopes. It was written for a 1981 British radio program and delivered as written by a forgettable comedian. The tricky part is that, although it's possible Ringo might have been johnthebaskethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11066837787916271883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811987615829975890.post-35876864005492146712021-11-19T13:35:57.614-08:002021-11-19T13:35:57.614-08:00Doug, as with many things in the world, it's b...Doug, as with many things in the world, it's both simple and complicated. (spoiler: I'm not going to tell you much you don't already know). Potters' wheels of my grandmother's day were spun with both feet, and guitar players were much more worried about how to amplify their sound (as with resonators) than creating effects. Electrification changed everything.<br /><br />Both johnthebaskethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11066837787916271883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811987615829975890.post-79506696971209719132021-11-19T07:04:14.117-08:002021-11-19T07:04:14.117-08:00I know a little about early underground publishing...I know a little about early underground publishing, but so little about music that until you got me reading and listening to all this yesterday, I'd always assumed Tuli Kupferberg was a woman.<br /><br />Not tortured. The first album was 70/30, and the next two were 40/60 and 30/70, but I'm still listening. I am traveling chronologically, and should reach 1968 over the weekend (What a Doug Hollandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16075745451950217113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811987615829975890.post-15719501989016725572021-11-19T05:27:49.845-08:002021-11-19T05:27:49.845-08:00Doug, I reissue my caution that these guys lit a j...Doug, I reissue my caution that these guys lit a joint in mid-1964 that was still going in early 1967. I think they rolled it with Zig-Zag-Zig-Zag-Zig-Zag-Zig-Zag papers. You might consider jumping to 1968's "It Crawled Into My Hand, Honest". The eternal flame was out by then. "Burial Waltz" is in a key and several other songs come close. And whenever Tuli Kupferberg got johnthebaskethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11066837787916271883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811987615829975890.post-32777310394691679452021-11-19T02:35:33.592-08:002021-11-19T02:35:33.592-08:00Now it's the next morning and I'm less imp...Now it's the next morning and I'm less impressed by the Fugs' second and third albums. Several songs skipped, and the appeal of off-key singing is limited. The poetry works better than the music. Doug Hollandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16075745451950217113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811987615829975890.post-64620748819522393142021-11-18T16:22:45.362-08:002021-11-18T16:22:45.362-08:00John — It was a lucky day, whatever brought you to...<b>John</b> — It was a lucky day, whatever brought you to click here. <br /><br />Your beautiful opening sentence-paragraph <i>of course</i> led me to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Sanders" rel="nofollow">Ed Sanders' Wikipedia page</a>, which in turn has led me all over the internet for the past two and a half hours. It’s downright embarrassing that I knew so little about Mr Doug Hollandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16075745451950217113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811987615829975890.post-81437358033158444782021-11-18T16:17:12.538-08:002021-11-18T16:17:12.538-08:00Captain — What does your sweetie think of the goop...<b>Captain</b> — What does your sweetie think of the goopy pottery scenes in <i>Ghost</i>?Doug Hollandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16075745451950217113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811987615829975890.post-13221856658050602442021-11-18T11:31:07.593-08:002021-11-18T11:31:07.593-08:00I will not insult anyone's intelligence by jus...I will not insult anyone's intelligence by just summarizing information that is readily available on Ed Sanders' brief, well-written Wikipedia page, but, just as the slight difference between Doug's age and mine make history for him out of what are current events for me, Mr. Sanders' 10-year head start on me (and his intelligence, his countercultural instincts, his audacity, and johnthebaskethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11066837787916271883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811987615829975890.post-32393059634819446552021-11-18T06:26:36.845-08:002021-11-18T06:26:36.845-08:00Yeah, Virginia's pottery wheel has somethiing ...Yeah, Virginia's pottery wheel has somethiing similar tou your mom's sewing machine. It's basically an accelerator pedal. She can control the speed of the wheel while being wrist-deep in clay with both hands.Captain Hampocketsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811987615829975890.post-35160461768202127782021-11-18T04:12:12.353-08:002021-11-18T04:12:12.353-08:00You know many things I don't know, like wah-wa...You know many things I don't know, like wah-wah pedals. My mom's, I think, controlled the speed of the sewing? Was it actually derived from a device made for rock'n'roll? She'd hate that.<br /><br />I can barely sew new threads through a loose button.<br /><br />Woodstock Journal seems to no longer be publishing new material, a sadness but understandable at Mr Sanders' ageDoug Hollandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16075745451950217113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811987615829975890.post-54334795563283771272021-11-17T18:53:11.777-08:002021-11-17T18:53:11.777-08:00Geez, I'll bet she was hell on stage. Did she ...Geez, I'll bet she was hell on stage. Did she play punk or new wave? <br /><br />Mr. Sanders, like me, is old and, although he's a semi-retired rocker (as well as a serious expert on ancient civilizations and their writing) I'm not sure he knows that what started out as a wah-wah pedal is now about 50 different effect pedals. Hell, the challenge today is making a guitar actually soundjohnthebaskethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11066837787916271883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811987615829975890.post-35395315133292983242021-11-17T16:26:39.385-08:002021-11-17T16:26:39.385-08:00I don't know Mr Sanders, but I am a fan of Woo...I don't know Mr Sanders, but I am a fan of Woodstock Journal. Not a fan for 50 years like you, but I've occasionally spent some time at the site, and never yet regretted it. Thus, it gets a permanent link from me. <br /><br />I had to google "wah-wah pedal". I think my mom had a wah-wah pedal for her sewing machine.Doug Hollandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16075745451950217113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811987615829975890.post-63287801668329965682021-11-17T15:18:46.639-08:002021-11-17T15:18:46.639-08:00“No country that invented the wah-wah pedal could ...“No country that invented the wah-wah pedal could be totally evil,”<br /><br />Ed Sandersjohnthebasketnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811987615829975890.post-11689697425391156742021-11-17T15:18:00.390-08:002021-11-17T15:18:00.390-08:00Doug, you can post this anywhere. You don't ne...Doug, you can post this anywhere. You don't need to bother with an email or USPS or a formal proclamation from QE2 or anything. I just didn't know where to write it.<br /><br />On the right gutter of your page -- I mean no harm, that's what we used to call it -- you have a list that included Woodstock Journal. One of my favorite guys, Ed Sanders who is unaccountably still alive, johnthebasketnoreply@blogger.com