Hazel’s TV

My sister Hazel is disabled, and lives in a nursing home. After our twice-monthly family breakfasts, the Hollands usually visit her, and the visits are much easier in a group. I visited Hazel alone once, and wow it was difficult, making conversation with someone who really can’t make conversation.

She has difficulty talking, and we all have difficulty understanding her, unless she’s saying something obvious, like “Hi, Mom” or “I love you.” When she says something more complex than that, you’re basically guessing at what she’s said, and the guessing is easier when the whole family plays, like Charades.

Because conversation is such a challenge, most of each visit is other Hollands talking to each other, and there’s always a sing-along of hymns and folk songs we all know from our childhoods. “I Knew an Old Lady Who Swallowed a Fly,” and so forth. Hazel sings, as much as she can, and enjoys the singing and the visits.

I enjoy the visits too, long as I remember not to think too much about the situation. My sister has all her wits and brains, but she can’t hardly talk, has very little muscle control, and can’t sit in her wheelchair more than an hour at a time. Which means she’ll never again leave the nursing home, and other than our visits, she’s incommunicado to the world.

We all come into Hazel’s room, and the staff makes sure there are enough chairs. It’s a big room, and private, not shared, because my late father had solid-gold life insurance. He’s been gone for more than 30 years, but Mom still gets a monthly stipend that leaves her no money worries, and Hazel lives at the nicest nursing home I’ve ever seen. It’s homey, not fancy, because it’s actually a house. The owners live there, along with several patients/residents, and even a couple of dogs. It’s literally a mom-and-pop nursing home.

Hazel’s TV is always on when we arrive, and always on the Hallmark Channel. They manufacture movies that are all basically the same, about sweater-wearing white people falling in love. It’s a comfort for her.

The staff clicks the television off when we arrive, or a few times it’s been left on but with the volume turned down. If the TV’s on, even if the volume’s off, Hazel will be watching it any moment we’re not actively talking with her.

There’s no remote control, because Hazel doesn’t have the dexterity to punch buttons. She could ask the staff to change the channel and of course they would, but she doesn’t ask, because it’s on the channel she likes. It’s sad, but except for the twice-monthly hour we’re there, the Hallmark Channel is all she’s got.

What channel would you choose, if you were disabled, stuck in bed, unable to go outside or go anywhere, and the TV was your only portal to the outside world? Would you want PBS, where the flavor of pablum changes every hour or so? Would you want CNN, if your fingers didn’t work well enough to flip off the anchors? Hazel wants Hallmark, and I can see the appeal of it — it’s a channel that always paints a happy world. Sweaters and smiles, all day, every day.

When our visit is over, we make sure the TV is on again, always on the Hallmark Channel, and turned up loud enough for her to hear.

“Goodbye for now, Hazel,” we say as we’re leaving. “We love you.”

She smiles and says “I love you, too,” but she’s already watching the TV.

9/5/2025

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53 responses to “Hazel’s TV”

  1. granville Avatar
    granville

    > It’s literally a mom-and-pop nursing home.

    This is a new one to me. Wow. I guess that’s closer to an ideal than the usual warehouses of old and disabled people most people stay in.

    Re: the Hallmark movies, it is crazy to me that there’s this sub-universe of cable TV channels that churn out these new, original movies like an assembly line. You’d think they could get away with just running the movies they and others made from 20 years ago, like virtually everything else on cable, which just shows endless blocks of older movies and TV shows running on a loop these days.

    A twisted sister to the Hallmark movies are the Lifetime movies, which are edgier but largely squeezed out of the same tube. Many of them are about teenagers, but deliberately played by (and as) adults in their 20s, which I’m told are watched by a target market of women in their 30s and 40s. The titles have a Roger Corman quality to them (cheerleaders, murders, etc.) but flipped for a female audience.

    Basically the last original and “creative” programming in the entire medium of cable are the schmaltzy Hallmark & Lifetime movies. A weird end.

    1. Doug Holland Avatar

      The nursing home is on a residential street, and looks like just another house. It is just another house. Doesn’t even have a sign out front.

      You’re old like me, right? Maybe you remember how Hallmark started in the moviemaking business, with “Hallmark Hall of Fame” — probably THE most prestigious movies made for television from the 1950s onward. When I was a kid, they made 3-4 HHOF movies annually, and they were big events, with genuine movie stars, on serious subjects, and got very good reviews. Somehow that evolved into a channel of 24/7 slop.

      Wife & I lived in Kansas City, where Hallmark is HQ’d, and once went to the Hallmark Museum, which is unintentionally hilarious. They really take their damned greeting cards seriously.

      I’ve seen a few Lifetime movies (Stalked by My Doctor!). They aim slightly higher than present-day Hallmark, I think. Pure schlock, but sometimes fun schlock.

      1. granville Avatar
        granville

        Hallmark Hall of Fame would have been before my time, but I’ve heard of it!

        I think Hallmark movies followed the same model as porn in the last 20 years. Hear me out. Louis Theroux did a few documentaries about the porn industry like decades apart. In the more recent ones, he talks to directors who note how the internet has made everything incredibly, stupidly streamlined. When Louis was making his first doc, this guy was directing a film with a title like “A Woman’s Affair.” Today the title would just be a bunch of keywords: MILF, Teen, Orgy, etc. (Sure am glad you’re no longer on blogger, btw, no way this comment would get through.) Likewise, while the age of the actors is probably the same as it ever was, nobody makes just ordinary porn anymore. The actresses in “A Woman’s Affair” or whatever it was called were 18 to late 20s and there wasn’t anything else to it. Today, all actresses in every scene are categorized, they’re either moms or teens, nothing in between.

        I see the same ruthless consideration in Hallmark & Lifetime originals. Titles like “I’m Dangerous Tonight” or “Miracle of The Season” would never pass muster today. Every holiday movie must have the word “Christmas” in the title, and the lurid lifetime films are similarly laden with keywords. The stories of the ones I’ve seen seem like they were spit out by a marketing machine rather than a creative team. If an actress is Latina instead of white, or her character is 35 instead of 25, this is almost definitely intentional and not a meaningless creative quirk. Maybe I’m silly and everything is that way, it probably is, but Hallmark & Lifetime seem almost charmingly upfront about it. “This movie is the same as the last 10 movies we’ve just shown, but with a 35 year old Black woman in the lead, but with a white love interest, because this will test better with 35 to 55 year old white women who want to see more actresses of color that they can parasocially identify with as a friend.”

        1. johnthebasket Avatar
          johnthebasket

          When I was 8 or 9, Hallmark Hall of Fame presented “The Mikado” and it’s still vivid in my memory even though I’ve not seen it since. The flowers that bloom in the spring, tra la.

          jtb

          1. Doug Holland Avatar

            The snippets in Foul Play urged me to see The Mikado on stage, and it was great. I want to see a movie of it, and there’ve been several, but I didn’t know Hallmark had made one. It’s probably the one I want to see.

            1. johnthebasket Avatar
              johnthebasket

              Yeah, that might be a problem. When Rod Serling scripted “Requiem for a Heavyweight” in1956, it was performed LIVE on national TV. I don’t think there’s a tape available. I’m unsure whether there’s an existing tape of The Mikado, which would have been in about 1958.

              jtb

              1. Doug Holland Avatar

                Never seen Requiem for a Heavyweight. Sounds like a boxing movie. It’s good?

                IMDB says it was filmed for CBS’s Playhouse 90 with Jack Palance in 1957, and for BBC Sunday Night Theatre with Sean Connery the same year, the made into a movie in ’62 with Anthony Quinn, Jackie Gleason, and Mickey Rooney, which is probably why I’ve never seen it — all three get on my nerves. The TV versions seem to be unavailable, but I’ve seen other old Playhouse 90s so they’re not all lost.

                The Mikado I have is from 1939, so it pre-dates Hallmark.

        2. Doug Holland Avatar

          Louis Theroux might have already been on my list, but now he’s on it again. His take at porn intrigues me, from having been within walking distance of the outskirts of that industry in the ’90s.

          Didn’t know there are non-white Hallmark movies. Never seen one in any of my visits to Hazel. (And I forgot to mention, when she was sick I visited her in the hospital once, and it was Hallmark on her TV there too.) There are black and Hispanic people in the cast, even in speaking roles, but I’ve never seen a non-white in the lead.

          HHOF was always, “The show you wanted to watch will not be seen tonight, so we may present the following artsy-fartsy original from Hallmark Hall of Fame,” and then it would be George C Scott doing Henrik Ibsen or something. Sometimes I watched, but usually they were too arty. Now they’re artless entirely.

          1. granville Avatar
            granville

            Admittedly I was thinking more about the Lifetime movies with the Black lead, of which I’ve seen at least one.

            1. Doug Holland Avatar

              Don’t think I’ve seen a Lifetime movie in ages and ages — are there any specific Lifetimers you’d recommend?

              1. granville Avatar
                granville

                My shallow but assured advice is that you can just pick one, they’re all the same. I’m not sure you can even see them outside of the cable channel, not because they’re precious but who would upload them? The target market is probably not the type to visit strange movie websites hosted in Vietnam that look a little like Netflix but with popups that eat your browser alive.

                They also seem to show them in blocks with a general theme, which is how I discovered this politely raunchy form of entertainment. I don’t think they were made with this in mind, there are just so many with the same plot points. My girlfriend was watching what I can only characterize as “cheerleader snuff films,” there were like 3 or 4 of them in a row that all had the theme of way too old actors behaving way too mature to believably be cheerleaders, who were murdered.

                1. Doug Holland Avatar

                  Sounds gruesome, probably too gruesome for me. I have a low limit for dead cheerleaders, but I admire the dedication to a theme. Lots of movies rip off other movies, sounds like Lifetime movies rip off other Lifetime movies, which seems cost-effective.

                  Searching for “best lifetime movies” turned up Jodi Arias, Jon-Benet Ramsey, Amanda Knox, Laci Peterson … an absolute all-star team of lurid.

                  I’m a big fan of schlock, but usually it’s sci-fi or horror. I’ll pick one and probably enjoy it. I’m leaning toward Amanda Knox (2011), because she’s cute and so’s Hayden Panettiere, playing the part.

                  1. granville Avatar
                    granville

                    That’s an impressive list.

                    Sometimes the keywordy titles seem to obscure what is actually an interesting premise. Like this movie seems like it must have been created by algorithm:

                    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10082950/

                    But the premise is actually decent, and something that creates a stir every time it pops up in pop culture, for instance with Shelby Hewitt. Not to say it’s good, but it’s probably better than the title would indicate, which sounds hilarious.

                    1. Doug Holland Avatar

                      And most important, it starts with an I.

                      Never understood why anyone would want to *return* to high school, which was, at least for me, the worst years of my life.

                    2. granville Avatar
                      granville

                      I couldn’t wait to leave high school too. The whole action seems insane, but there doesn’t seem to be much consistency among people who have been caught trying to go back as an adult. A basketball player in his mid-20s went back to high school and absolutely dominated competition until he was found out. He seemed to be trying to relive his glory days.

                      Some are certainly loony, some are con men (or in this case more often con women).

                    3. Doug Holland Avatar

                      Makes sense, I guess, for people without my particular phobia of school. If I went back, even now, I’m sure I’d melt into a daily panic attack same as 50 years ago, and start skipping class again on a regular basis again.

                      I would call a few teachers on their bullshit, probably get expelled, but mostly I’d be skipping.

          2. johnthebasket Avatar
            johnthebasket

            George C. Scott sneezing in front of a camera can be compelling. In “They Might Be Giants” he owned the stage, then owned the screen. I don’t care that the play closed after four weeks or than my favorite musical group claims to be named after a “bad movie”. Everybody has a right to be wrong. George was one of the best actors of my generation.

            John

            1. Doug Holland Avatar

              He was good, but he was always George C Scott — basically the same gruff dude in every GSC movie I can remember. Nobody did it better, but did he ever do anything else?

              1. johnthebasket Avatar
                johnthebasket

                Dr. Strangelove.

                jtb

                1. granville Avatar
                  granville

                  True but Kubrick tricked him to get that performance.

                  1. johnthebasket Avatar
                    johnthebasket

                    granville, I’m not sure I’ve heard that story and I’d love to. Can you summarize it?

                    jtb

                    1. granville Avatar
                      granville

                      Yeah, Kubrick wanted Turgidson to be over the top and unhinged (pretty much what you see on screen in Strangelove.)

                      Though he understood it was for comedy, George C. Scott thought he should play him completely straight as a gruff, tough bastard (pretty much like what Doug was saying about every other George C. Scott role).

                      They fought a lot early in the filming over this and other matters, but Kubrick caved in. He said “Okay, you’re right, George, and you can play him how you want. But just to keep rehearsals light, let’s do run throughs where you play up how unhinged and ludicrious Turgidson is, and then we’ll shoot it your way for film.”

                      Except he was filming the whole time, and Kubrick used the unhinged Turgidson takes from rehearsals (which Scott was not taking very seriously) and threw away the ones where he was filming “for real.”

                      Scott was incensed, he hated Kubrick’s guts for that though I think later in life he mellowed about it, or at least said he did.

                    2. Doug Holland Avatar

                      Ha! Pretty great story, thanks. Kubrick doesn’t seem like someone you could say no to, but George C Scott was a gruff, tough bastard so if anyone could say no it would’ve been him.

                      Now I gotta see DSoHILTSW&LTB again, and see if GSC is better or different than I’d remembered.

                  2. Doug Holland Avatar

                    I’d also like to hear the story, please!

                    Seems to me, though, tricked or not tricked, George C Scott in Doc Strangelove was basically the same gruff dude he always was, exaggerated, like John Wayne in True Grit.

                    Haven’t seen DSoHILTSW&LTB in decades, though; maybe I’m full of feces on this.

                    1. johnthebasket Avatar
                      johnthebasket

                      Thanks, granville. Great story which I’d never heard — and well told. I assume the outtakes are either destroyed or worn out from overshowing at Hollywood underground parties. It’s a damn fine film.

                      John

                    2. granville Avatar
                      granville

                      In this case the outtakes would probably be pretty boring — I can imagine it’d be just Scott intoning in his extremely serious way that in no way can we allow the Russian ambassador to see The Big Board. I imagine it would be something like Robert Loggia, who played the general in Independence Day, expressing extreme gravitas at all times.

                      There was another story that Scott and Kubrick used to solve their (other) fights on the set of Strangelove with games of chess, which sounds like an urban legend to tidy up the real story and give it the veneer of intellectualism. Scott was, by his own admission, a conservative (probably something like a Reaganite) and didn’t care for a lot of the characters he played. I mean he wasn’t pro-Mussolini or anything, but he doesn’t seem like the kind that would think Buck Turgidson is inherently funny.

                    3. Doug Holland Avatar

                      Amusing, thanks.

                      Conservative then might not be the same as conservative now, but always conservative means keeping things the crappy way they are, so the corpse of George C Scott can kiss my ass.

                      Not really, ha ha.

                      But, really.

                      Never had much sympathy for actors and their “creative differences” with the director. What an ego GSC must’ve had.

                      I’ve worked for stupid bosses, lawbreaking bosses, indifferent bosses, one or two decent bosses, and several incompetent bosses, but as a near rock-solid rule, I did what the boss told me to do. When I had “creative differences” I said something, but then I did the job. That’s the deal, ain’t it? The company pays my rent, so I do what the company says, within reason.

      2. johnthebasket Avatar
        johnthebasket

        I was blissfully unaware of “I Know an Old Lady Who Swallowed a Fly” but it looks like it was actually recorded by Burl Ives, who, being an acquaintance of Don McCune, appeared roughly annually on the Captain Puget Show. He might have appeared more often, but there’s only so much of Captain Puget a kid can take.

        I’m reluctant to admit to this, but I’m reminded of a architype porno movie title: “I Know an Old Lady Who Swallowed.” I figured I could get away with that on a blog with a Porno Correspondent. I’ll just go ahead and stick with music and poetry.

        John

        1. Doug Holland Avatar

          We sang that song ten thousand times when I was a kid, but in my head I hear Peter Paul & Mary singing it, not Burl Ives.

          Captain Puget was only a local show on channel 4, but Burl Ives was a major star of music and movies. Cool that they were buddies.

          I only very vaguely remember Captain Puget. That show was off the air 60 years ago. I do remember the Captain’s alter-ego Don McCune for Exploration Northwest. … and I remember channel 4 being locally owned by non-fascists, but like everything else that was long, long ago. Now they’re Sinclair, right-wing liars.

  2. johnthebasket Avatar
    johnthebasket

    As long as you remember that “the company” isn’t your boss. I was way down the totem pole, but at one time I had 20 senior computing engineers reporting to me. I bought them doughnuts every week for our staff meeting and if I made an assignment that didn’t make sense, I fully expected the engineer(s) in question to tell me it didn’t make sense. Sometimes I knew things they didn’t and the assignment was reasonable. Sometimes my judgement was flawed. In the former case, I tried my very best to be both human and humane in pushing forward. In the latter case, I thanked them and we figured out what we SHOULD do. It ain’t much more complicated than that.

    John

    1. Doug Holland Avatar

      No, it ain’t much more complicated than that. A good boss has those conversations, and listens and considers what’s heard. And when the conversation is over, a worker does what the boss said to do, unless the worker is a prick like George C Scott.

      Thanks for the doughnuts, by the way. I’m the guy who took a second and third one when nobody was looking, usually the jelly-filled ones.

      1. johnthebasket Avatar
        johnthebasket

        You’re certainly welcome. My staff meetings became folklore in the company I worked for. There were two guys who frequently sat across from each other at the long, narrow table. One Tuesday, while I was babbling about the coming week, without my knowledge, they were having a contest to see who could stuff white powder doughnuts in his mouth faster. While I was dispensing wisdom or horseshit to the assembled software engineers, they both erupted at pretty much the same time. I’ve never been to London, but I was told that the room took on the aspect of a London killer fog, punctuated by bits of pastry shrapnel sticking to the windows. It was a gala day, and a gal a day should be enough for any software engineer. We spent the remaining hour attempting to clean the table, floor, walls, windows and ceiling of the conference room and I returned to my policy of no powdered doughnuts at staff meetings

        John

        1. johnthebasket Avatar
          johnthebasket

          This must have been about 1995. I addressed the problem by hiring women engineers, who were a little scarce, but the ones I found were very competent, and eschewed doughnut eating contests. I ended up promoting two of the women into management roles at which they excelled. They kept the boys in line, which was more than I was doing.

          I should make it clear that I encouraged having fun at work. At a later staff meeting, one of the male engineers brought his remote-control zeppelin, and buzzed the team throughout the meeting. Life is too short to avoid laughter and just long enough to clean a fog-shrouded conference room.

          John

          It’s a little after four in the morning, and I just finished a 12-hour housecleaning shift. I need sleep.

          1. Doug Holland Avatar

            I would’ve liked working for you, but you wouldn’t have hired me. Unqualified, except for doughnut duties.

        2. Doug Holland Avatar

          Do you believe the problem to be white powder doughnuts, specifically — that if they’d been glazed there would’ve been no mess? Anecdotally, my experience is that it’s quantity and perhaps speed that leads to a mess, not the specific pastry type.

          Great to have left your mark in London, though.

          1. johnthebasket Avatar
            johnthebasket

            Oh no. The white powder just made the scene a little more cataclysmic. These engineers worked long hours, frequently under time pressure. I didn’t mind them blowing off some steam. But conference rooms are shared, and if you create a shitstorm, you gotta clean up the shit. Jeez, these were weekly two-hour meetings with, perhaps, 20 items/projects to cover. And most of the engineers got stuck in other meetings. Sometimes you have to do crazy shit to stay sane.

            John

            1. Doug Holland Avatar

              > Sometimes you have to do crazy shit to stay sane.

              True even in retirement.

              I thought there was a 10% chance the white powder was a reference to cocaine, but 90% knew better.

              1. johnthebasket Avatar
                johnthebasket

                Well, I don’t recommend cocaine, but my advice would be to never snort it with a tie on. The dangling cravat can become enmeshed with the snorting equipment. In physics, this is called entanglement, or “spilling the powder”. They were doughnuts from Henry’s Bakery in the Proctor District. Henry was long gone, but, for a while, his memory lingered with another generation. Now that generation is dust and Henry’s is no more. I thought I’d never taste another great doughnut, then god sent Pao and He saw that it was good. Scripture and verse.

                John

                1. Doug Holland Avatar

                  That’s Pao’s Donut & Coffee Shop in Tacoma, yes? Never been there, and don’t see myself getting to Tacoma until the light rail system gets there, which’ll be after I’m dead. Are the donuts worth coming out of my urn?

                  Kinda envy you, talking about great donuts. See, I’ve eaten thousands of donuts, and almost all of them were good, but I can’t remember any that made me swoon the way you swoon over Henry’s and Pao’s. People used to swoon about Krispy Kreme, but every time I’ve tried their donuts they’ve just been donuts. Fine. Good. Tasty. May I have another please? But never a swoon.

                  Anyone know a swoon-worth donut in Seattle?

                  1. johnthebasket Avatar
                    johnthebasket

                    I’ve had a couple of conversations with Pao about doughnut making (about which I know nothing). He’s explained the processes for different doughnut types and also some general guidelines about doughnut making. For example, he has noted that in applying an undercoat of sugar water, which one does for almost half the doughnuts he makes, he and/or his assistant paints the sugar water on with a paint brush. Pao is making something like 500 to 600 doughnuts per day. Each Krispy Kreme is making several thousand and is forced to spray their sugar water. Pao has explained the inferior results spraying yields, both in appearance and in taste. There are a half dozen other preparation secrets that yield “handmade” results and better taste and texture, and Pao knows them all. I’ll paraphrase with quote marks about what he has said about his philosophy. “I just make doughnuts — I’m not changing the world. But why not make the best possible doughnut I can?”

                    Remember that English is his second language and that he came to America as an adult. With those constraints in mind, I would say he’s quite eloquent. And in five years, I’ve never had anything but terrific doughnuts.

                    jtb

                    1. Doug Holland Avatar

                      Profound doughnuts, man. There’s someone who cares about what he’s doing, and you can’t fake that. Can’t chain it either.

                      One man, one location. That’s crucial. Even the decent mom & pop places, once they’re successful, usually open a second location, and then a third, and it just can’t be as good when you start doing it two places at once.

                      Look at the hours, too. Six days a week Pao’s is open 6AM to 4PM, but then on Sunday the lazy guy locks up at 2PM. Where’s the work ethic, man?

  3. johnthebasket Avatar
    johnthebasket

    And by the way . . . What about They Might Be Giants?

    jtb

    1. Doug Holland Avatar

      What about They Might Be Giants? It’s a mighty fine movie I’ve heard but never seen, and a mighty fine band I’ve heard.

      1. johnthebasket Avatar
        johnthebasket

        I had been naming films over the last 36 hours in which George C. Scott wasn’t his usual hardass self. I guess I could have contextualized the comment a little better.

        John

        1. Doug Holland Avatar

          I got misplaced, actually thought you were talking about the band.

          Downloading it, I now remember seeing the movie once, but it was decades ago, on TV, with commercials, and I hadn’t even remembered George C Scott.

      2. johnthebasket Avatar
        johnthebasket

        You listened to the whole movie without seeing it? I can understand doing that with a band: on the radio, e.g. . . .I’m just hoping for your sake that you don’t experience silent films the same way. I suppose it could be one of those Zen things. I suppose you could hire the piano player to come to your house if you had a piano . . . or a keyboard unit of some kind.

        I never know whether to capitalize the Z in Zen. I think that’s ALSO one of those Zen things.

        johnthenon-baptistbasket

        1. Doug Holland Avatar

          I would capitalize the Z if I’m writing about an organized Zen event, meeting, or teaching, but not if I’m describing some easygoing stoner as kinda zen.

          Never seen the movie They Might Be Giants, but I’ve heard it’s good. Also, it has nothing in common with Sometimes a Great Notion except that both movies came out in 1971, I’ve never seen either, and their titles interlock in my head so I can never remember which is George C Scott and which is Paul Newman.

    2. johnthebasket Avatar
      johnthebasket

      Answering Doug 4 or 5 comments above re: single business location: As the Firesign Theater dramatically put it in naming one of their albums: How can you be in two places at once when you’re really nowhere at all?

      jtb

      1. Doug Holland Avatar

        It’s been too long since Firesign Theatre popped into my head, and longer my ears. In my 20s and 30s all the cool kids loved ’em.

        I’m nowhere, but also nowhere else.

  4. johnthebasket Avatar
    johnthebasket

    Duggles, when TMBG (the way I usually identify the band as opposed to the movie) started in 1982, they had no intention of being known outside Brooklyn or lasting longer than a couple of years at the most. 43 years later, 33 albums later, thousands of live appearances later, dozens of national television guest appearances later, spending a lifetime without having a day job, John and John have been confused with the movie many times, to their surprise and delight. It’s been a long, long happy accident, laced with talent and an outright refusal to give up during difficult times, and celebrate during good times. They seem to still like and respect each other and their five-piece band still looks like they’re having fun. I’ve loved the music from the very start, and the boys are a decade younger than me, so they could keep going for a while.

    So confusing the band and the movie is perplexing but, for me, also joyful.

    jtb

    1. Doug Holland Avatar

      This is as it should be, and very few things are. I am pleased that TMBG has never gone all AARP or CBS or KFC or SAT.

      1. johnthebasket Avatar
        johnthebasket

        In celebration and absolute delight of TMBG’s 43 years of making people happy, here, from KEXP, is the whole band with a couple of extra horns playing Doctor Worm.

        jtb

        https://duckduckgo.com/?q=they+might+be+giants+-+doctor+worm&atb=v341-1&t=chromentp&ia=videos&iax=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DIyF7PQ__zV4

        1. Doug Holland Avatar

          That’s marvelous, and new to me. I think he’s getting better on the drums.

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