Anything goes #33

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6/21/2025

Anything goes

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63 responses to “Anything goes #33”

    1. Doug Holland Avatar

      Oh man, that’s a trip. I just knew Art Bell would be involved.

      > Kirkpatrick’s team procured the metal, and sent it for another round of testing to Oak Ridge National Laboratory, one of the Energy Department’s premier research facilities. Scientists there determined that the alloy isn’t from outer space and doesn’t have antigravity properties. Kirkpatrick’s team found it was probably from a World War II-era manufacturing test of an aircraft part or an armament, such as a shell casing.

      I was not surprised, but enjoyed the ride getting there.

      Have you seen The Men Who Stare at Goats? All about the military-industrial complex taking extraterrestrials and the supernatural super-serious, and it’s based on fact. I watched a documentary a while back about the factual side of that story, and I haven’t written the review yet but it’s sheer craziness yet somehow endearing, even as I shook my head no all through it.

      1. Claude Reigns Avatar
        Claude Reigns

        >Have you seen The Men Who Stare at Goats<

        Have not, but it's on my list. I believe Jon Ronson wrote the source story?

        Spielbergo just wrapped his latest film, and it's reported to be a return to sci-fi, in the vein of Close Encounters… here's hoping he has one great alien story left to tell…

        1. Doug Holland Avatar

          My Spielberg enthusiasm ran out long ago, but if he did something in the vein of Close Encounters I’d be innerested…

          Yup, Jon Ronson did the factwork that the fiction flick of Goats is based on.

          1. Claude Reigns Avatar
            Claude Reigns

            You liked Munich (it is great) and I still recommend Bridge of Spies, but nothing he’s done is as good as Jaws/CE3K/Raiders/ET/Empire of the Sun

            1. Doug Holland Avatar

              I am skeptical of Bridge of Spies, because of Tom Hanks and also because I don’t much give a rip about spies (smiley-face), but it is on the list. I’d estimate I’ll be in the B’s by 2028, if there’s still electricity and America by then. Or maybe I should boost it higher up on the list?

      2. johnthebasket Avatar
        johnthebasket

        During my adulthood, I spent one late night a week with friends and drove home in the middle of the night. I’d always tune in Art Bell to see what kind of horseshit ideas he was selling. I finally figured out that he didn’t seem all that whacko because his callers were out there where the busses don’t run, and Art seemed marginally sane by comparison. In retrospect, the whole late night talk jungle doesn’t seem odd at all compared to the current U.S. House of Representatives. I miss Dick Cavett.

        jtb

        1. Doug Holland Avatar

          Before the internet made nuttiness ubiquitous and inescapable, I listened to Art Bell sometimes in the wee hours. Usually found his show entertaining, and I suspect I took at least some of it seriously, though it’s been a long time and I can’t remember what.

          Mr Cavett is still alive and well, and I wish someone would give him a show again. Is there an old fogey channel on cable? Man, I would pirate that in a flash.

  1. eel paradise Avatar
    eel paradise

    My Asshole
    I knew I was getting old last year when I got my first hemorrhoid and bi-focals on the same day. How could I know that an airplane trip to a wedding in Canada would bring me this condition?! Well, it was a high-class hemmy because it didn’t come from within but just kind of jutted out of the skin on the side. The daily sitz baths and witch hazel made it vanish in a couple weeks though my former food stamp worker from 1976 (is anyone else still friends with his Home Visitor?) told me it would have disappeared anyway.
    This year my doctor, after irrigating my ears and hearing about a little digestive episode I had in Mexico, decided that it was time for my first sigmoidoscopy. I fasted, laxatized, enemized and then went up to Eureka to get a camera up my butt. I lay down on my side, the doctor had the scope in his hands, an anus in his face, and it felt like he just tried to ram it in.
    “Ouch! Stop! I don’t think this is a good idea after all!” I said.
    “No, we’ll do it,” he said.
    He tried to push the thing in again and I gasped, couldn’t he be more gentle? Use more lube? Play with my anus a little and warm me to the occasion? (Maybe even whisper sweet thoughts into my ear and give me flowers?) I swear I would not sue him for sexual harassment.
    Finally the camera was in me and traveling up the sigmoid (lower colon). I watched the progress on the video screen and it looked very pink and beautiful and there were no polyps.
    The doctor snapped a picture for me which is now on my refrigerator. I might make a Tee Shirt of it or if I ever have a web site it will be Press Here to open. (I did that.)

    1. Doug Holland Avatar

      Hope you’re exaggerating for comedic effect. A doc shouldn’t be pushing the camera up your bum when you’ve said stop. There are rules, or there are supposed to be. But I’m happy to hear and see that you’re polyp free.

      I had hemorrhoids pretty bad in my 20s, bloody painful and bloody bloody, but they faded away without any treatment or surgery.

      As webmaster here, the process of adding an illustration for any page brings up a gallery of the site’s 50 most recent illustrations, which means I’ll be gazing deep inside you daily for the next few weeks.

  2. johnthebasket Avatar
    johnthebasket

    Wow. Twenty years ago, Jon Ronson was everywhere: all over NPR, SNL, TV talk shows. Then he vanished, like a fist when you open your hand. I know he’s still working, but television and radio have been tsunamied by the Web; one day everybody was taking (or giving) The Psychopath Test, and the next day everybody except Ronson had a podcast. Hell, maybe he has one, but it doesn’t come in up here in the Great Pacific Northwest. I keep twisting the dials.

    jtb

    1. Doug Holland Avatar

      He was on SNL? Is he a funny guy, in addition to the quack studies?

      I don’t really remember him riding the top of the charts, but popularity comes and goes. Haven’t read/seen a lot of his work, but what I have seen has interested me. Not that I’m the target audience, certainly.

    2. granville Avatar
      granville

      Ah the “Men Who Stare At Goats” doc was a rec from me, I’m glad you liked it Doug!

      John, Ronson’s done a LOT of podcasts, though most of them are in the vein of “audio documentaries,” but they’re still mostly grouped together with podcasts. I recommended one to Doug in ye olde comments here, called “Things Fall Apart,” in two series over two years. He also did one called “The Butterfly Effect,” which is like a 9 part series on the ubiquity of porn, “The Last Days of August” about a dead porn star, and “The Debutante: From High Society to White Supremacy.” The first two mentioned I thought were phenomenal, I haven’t watched the last two.

      I think he explained in another person’s podcast I can’t remember well that he mostly earns a living writing for movies/TV these days. Not a huge number of credits on imdb but that seems like how that racket works.

      1. Doug Holland Avatar

        Was that you? Well, thanks!

        I also listened to most of the first season of Things Fall Apart, and enjoyed it, until I felt like I’d heard enough about the culture wars. It’s just rich people controlling the narrative and telling poor people what to be perpetually pissed off about. When what they should be pissed off about is how rich people control the narrative, and the world, and the world’s poor people.

      2. johnthebasket Avatar
        johnthebasket

        Gran, Ronson is a fine writer, and there’s lots of work in the movie industry for people who can write dialog. The folks who do the final cut and rarely get screen credit are frequently called “script doctors”. I think the simple idea is that they take a forgettable script and make it into a memorable one. The late Princess Leia was an SD and word on the street is that she brought home seven figures a year over her last five or six years. Turning a $30 million film into a $50 million film does have rewards, even if you don’t bat a thousand.

        I think Ronson is doing this for docs, which is obviously not as lucrative, but keeps the wolf from the door and, on the occasion when you hit it out of the park, word gets around. The film community is deceptively small.

        John

        1. Doug Holland Avatar

          Ronson told the story of Stanley Kubrick’s Boxes, which I saw and very much liked a few weeks ago, and co-wrote the non-doc Okja with Bong Joon Ho.

  3. johnthebasket Avatar
    johnthebasket

    Goddamn, well, I declare
    Have you seen the like
    Their walls are built of cannon balls
    Their motto is don’t tread on me

    rh/jg – jtb

    1. Doug Holland Avatar

      Well, all righty then, let’s have the eternal philosophical discussion of Uncle John’s Band. Who’s Uncle John, and who’s the band? Had a long conversation with a Christian Deadhead (!) long ago, who thought Uncle John was Jesus, and the whole this is an allegorical gospel. I asked him where he got such wonderful weed.

      But still…

      Come hear Uncle John’s Band, playing to the tide
      Come with me or go alone
      He’s come to take his children home

  4. johnthebasket Avatar
    johnthebasket

    Uncle John is Jerome John Garcia, certainly the leader of the band, and the leader of several spinoff bands.

    jtb

    1. Doug Holland Avatar

      Well, if you say so, Uncle John. My ear hears more.

  5. johnthebasket Avatar
    johnthebasket

    I’m sorry you’re down to one ear. Sometimes more is less.

    jtb

    1. Doug Holland Avatar

      Two ears, but around 50% hearing in each, so it works out the same.

  6. johnthebasket Avatar
    johnthebasket

    What is the most moving song you’ve ever heard? For me (tied for first place with a half dozen other tunes) is Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds singing “Into My Arms”. The song was featured in the movie Zero Effect, which would be a top ten film in a world that cared about love.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVewUtxyIYs&list=RDDVewUtxyIYs&start_radio=1

    johnthebasket

    1. Doug Holland Avatar

      Hella song. Pretty good video, too, especially that last shot.

      1. Claude Reigns Avatar
        Claude Reigns

        johnthebasket
        06/27/2025
        What is the most moving song you’ve ever heard?

        https://youtu.be/3gsWt7ey6bo?si=eZtR1K0uIwEFaCIv

        1. Doug Holland Avatar

          One suspects you’re joking, and I’m the one, but that is a kinda cool song.

          My gag answer is “It’s a Gas” by Alfred E Neuman. My serious answer is almost anything by Leonard Cohen.

          1. johnthebasket Avatar
            johnthebasket

            Well, that’s not the link I posted or attempted to post. I am sufficiently unfamiliar with the Stooges to HAVE a favorite Stooges song. That was supposed to be another Nick Cave song. I think the problem lies somewhere among my free computer, your modest software problems, and my cabeza. (comma courtesy Rule 13). It was a dark, cool evening — the moon took the night off — I reached for the elastic of her pajamas and snapped it like a longbow.

            jtb

            1. Doug Holland Avatar

              That’s Claude, responding to your link, higher up the page.

  7. Claude Reigns Avatar
    Claude Reigns

    Every fifteen seconds it becomes a totally different song… genius

    https://youtu.be/Oe6y_7NnLFU?si=xQ6tAy9PAz7gEWgi

    1. Doug Holland Avatar

      I’ve heard and liked this song before, and yeah, all the segments are different but also connected enough to seem of a piece instead of a collage. It’s a very cool and *different* song for The Beach Boys, and this morning I’ve noticed something else — it’s a fantastic adult lullaby.

      My recliner is old and lumpy and no longer reclines, but I’m too cheap to replace it, so I bought a very thick cushion to soften the lumps, and slept well last night but sleepy time was over at about 8. I listened to “This Whole World” three times and it was suddenly past 9. Listened twice more and woke up almost at 11:00. Part of the credit goes to the new cushion, obviously, but the song sure has an effect.

      I have things to do today so I am not listening again at this time, but I’ve saved a copy and will listen again around bedtime.

  8. Claude Reigns Avatar
    Claude Reigns

    Unbelievably brilliant, the strings after “listen” at 1:45, unearthly…

    https://youtu.be/RyComJz4ZFw?si=n_GAhuuQEvJ34V0W

    1. Claude Reigns Avatar
      Claude Reigns

      Pet Sounds a direct link to the greatest record of the 1990s:

      https://youtu.be/fH0NQzXlzyQ?si=RhduGBXwPDzPlHrm

    2. Doug Holland Avatar

      Did Wilson ever do music that wasn’t Beach Boysy? Gotta wonder what he could’ve done with Hendrix or Willie Nelson.

      1. Claude Reigns Avatar
        Claude Reigns

        Post-Pet Sounds he started or had plans for a comedy record, a country record, a sound effects record, a spoken word record, and more. His studio bootlegs surpass even Prince’s legendary unreleased material in variety and quantity.

        Even with the BB he released oddball gems like “Love You”

        https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLe4-LW5Atpg5jxCxkheqS_em_1P1Ayiyv&si=ZqRbNUdejpZW8h0b

            1. Doug Holland Avatar

              That’s exactly what I was hoping for but had never imagined.

          1. Doug Holland Avatar

            What the holy heck? Have I dialed a wrong number?

            Well, I can’t listen in the dark like the video asks me to. It’s broad daylight and 84° and I’ll be double-dang hornswaggled if I’m gonna draw the curtains I don’t have.

        1. Doug Holland Avatar

          Doesn’t sound Beach Boysy at all, except for the background vocals.

    1. Doug Holland Avatar

      This is new to me, and I really like it…

    1. Doug Holland Avatar

      I’m not wild about the music but the lyrics are poetry.

      What The Pillar Of Salt Held Up
      by American Music Club

      The take-off makes no sound
      It’s high and far away
      Your blue sky by the moon
      It takes my breath away

      Why do you choose
      What you choose to throw away into the undertow
      A happiness like we’ll never know

      You can overcome your bitterness and pain
      And you don’t remember how
      To start your life again

      You were born to please
      Born to put on a show
      But you always run away
      From a happiness like we’ll never know

      No hiding place in all the sky
      No camouflage to keep you warm at night
      No clothes you got seem to keep out the wind or the rain
      No way out from your shame

      The take-off makes no sound
      As you fly away with that look on your face
      That gives it all away

      Secrets that the sea would never tell the soul
      But where the current flows
      A happiness like we’ll never know

      1. Claude Reigns Avatar
        Claude Reigns

        Yeah, Mark Eitzel is a fantastic lyricist.

        *****

        Western Sky

        Time for me to go away
        I’ll get a new name, I’ll get a new face
        Time for me to go away
        No, I don’t belong in this place
        But I’m not gonna ask you why
        You think the parade has passed you by
        Or if everything good is gone into the western sky

        I hate to see you look that way
        All the beauty has left your face
        That’s such an easy thing to give away
        That’s impossible to replace
        So I’ll take you in my two weak hands
        And I’ll throw you so high
        Watch you fall forever in the western sky
        And when you land then you’ll turn into some kind of prize
        Into somebody’s sweet prize

        I won’t see you no more
        Mmm, who am I to rate that high?
        The world’s a shadow of what went before
        The world gives off none of its own light

        So please be happy baby
        And please don’t cry
        Even though the parade has passed us by
        Well you can still see it shining in the western sky
        In the western sky
        You can still see it shining
        You can still see it shining
        You can still see it shining
        So why won’t you stop crying?
        You can still see it shining

        *****

        Mom’s TV

        Where are all your brothers and sisters?
        ‘Cause I hope they’re not all like you
        Where are all your brothers and sisters?
        ‘Cause I get so lonely when there’s just you

        Why do you hate me so bad?
        ‘Cause I was the best friend you ever had
        Oh, tell me why you gave up so easily
        Yeah, I guess that you just lost your head

        The same water falls in lightning and snow
        The same scene of failure every night
        The same echoes reach me from far away
        Echoes of the end and the faint light of day

        Caught a small scene on my mom’s TV
        She watched it when she was lonely at night
        Oh God, I hate you, God I hate you
        Telling me what’s gonna happen the rest of my life

        The same water falls in lightning and snow
        The same scene of failure every night
        It’s written all off of your face, it’s in everything you say
        Echoes of the end and the faint light of day
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        Get tickets for your favorite artists

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        Art of Love
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        Western Sky
        American Music Club

        It’s so lonely, it’s so lonely, it’s so lonely, it’s so lonely

  9. Claude Reigns Avatar
    Claude Reigns

    https://youtu.be/3eNK38nmzw4?si=J-fmMF1FCbfOsgF-

    The only girl I’ve ever loved
    Was born with roses in her eyes
    But then they buried her alive

    One evening, 1945
    With just her sister at her side
    And only weeks before the guns
    All came and rained on everyone
    Now she’s a little boy in Spain
    Playing pianos filled with flames
    On empty rings around the sun
    All sing to say my dream has come

    But now we must pick up every piece
    Of the life we used to love
    Just to keep ourselves
    At least enough to carry on

    And now we ride this circus wheel
    With your dark brother wrapped in white
    Says it was good to be alive

    But now he rides a comet’s flame
    And won’t be coming back again
    The Earth looks better from a star
    That’s right above from where you are
    He didn’t mean to make you cry
    With sparks that ring and bullets fly
    On empty rings around your heart
    The world just screams and falls apart

    But now we must pick up every piece
    Of the life we used to love
    Just to keep ourselves
    At least enough to carry on

    And here’s where your mother sleeps
    And here is the room where your brothers were born
    Indentions in the sheets
    Where their bodies once moved but don’t move anymore
    And it’s so sad to see the world agree
    That they’d rather see their faces filled with flies
    All when I’d want to keep white roses in their eyes

    1. Doug Holland Avatar

      I became a fan of Neutral Milk Hotel because of a fleeting mention of the band on Parks & Rec. They’re almost enough to convince me that music isn’t going to go extinct.

    1. Doug Holland Avatar

      That’s in my sweet spot. Moving. Thanks.

      1. Claude Reigns Avatar
        Claude Reigns

        That’s Alex Chilton, you’ve heard his Box Tops song The Letter. He rejected all that and went a little nuts (in the best, most uncompromising way) the remainder of his life. One of my all time rock and roll heroes – he was more self-destructive and subversive than 10,000 mohawked punks. Possibly the most contrarian figure in all of pop music.

        1. johnthebasket Avatar
          johnthebasket

          No argument, but an observation. Mr Chilton was a member/leader of Big Star, a highly influential indie band and is remembered perhaps more for that than for the million sellers he had with the Box Tops. Along with some other kickass musicians, he came out of Muscle Shoals and Memphis with the help of Chips Moman, Dan Penn and Spooner Oldham and that crowd. Had he had health insurance, he might have lived another twenty years.

          jtb

          1. Doug Holland Avatar

            > Had he had health insurance, he might have lived another twenty years.

            Last words for a lot of Americans.

            Curious coincidence, Chilton was also the surname of a pretty good guy I worked with, in perfect health until a leukemia sneak attack that left him dead within months. He was, I think, 22. Fuck God.

        2. Doug Holland Avatar

          Dude must be old like us. “The Letter” was postmarked before I ever even kissed a girl.

          Respect for his journey.

          1. johnthebasket Avatar
            johnthebasket

            Chilton died of a heart attack at 59. He didn’t have medical insurance, so he didn’t go to the hospital. I had a heart attack at 66. I went to the hospital because I had Medicare. They did a four-way bypass and I’ve lived another nine years. I’m running out of time, but those nine years were not without laughs.

            jtb

    1. Doug Holland Avatar

      Oh man, it’s going to be a concert.

      Today’s a busy day, but soon as I’m back I’ll slip into my Tinkerbell shoes and trip the light fandango!

      1. johnthebasket Avatar
        johnthebasket

        If music be the food of love
        Then laughter is its queen
        And likewise if behind is in front
        Then dirt in truth is clean
        My mouth by then like cardboard
        Seemed to slip straight through my head
        So we crash-dived straightway quickly
        And attacked the ocean bed

        And so it was that later
        As the miller told his tale
        That her face at first just ghostly
        Turned a whiter shade of pale

        PH/jtb

        1. Doug Holland Avatar

          Oddly, my first thought at PH was Paul Harvey… good day. But no, it’s Procol Harum.

      2. Doug Holland Avatar

        I especially liked these three, which I reckon means I like the Replacements. Never knew it until today.

  10. johnthebasket Avatar
    johnthebasket

    I do believe, I do believe, a change is gonna come.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zDeBIA-vQ8

    jtb

    1. Doug Holland Avatar

      Dynamite rendition of one of my favorites, but I guess Sam Cooke was mistaken.

      1. johnthebasket Avatar
        johnthebasket

        Nope, Sam Cooke was dead-on right. But nothing lasts forever. It’s possible you’re too young to remember segregation in the North, but it was the real deal. A Black President? Impossible.

        jtb

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